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Well, I think these dragon demons would have tried shifting to human forms, after all, it seems that humans are applenty. A human form would give them a lot of advantages over their dragon form or their original allien form when dealing with humans.
Also, I think, if you have the ability to shapeshift to many forms, you would not limit yourself to shapeshift to human. You would certainly try other forms like say a bear, a dragon, an eagle or some other cool creatures. I was actually wondering about it when reading the book. It just doesn’t occur to Tom to shapeshift to other form, he doesn’t even try.
As for cats, large cats like tigers would be a better choice than you house pet. They are bigger than humans.
When demons have a very strong sense of smell, sight and hearing; and special senses like sensing mana, such form of sense seems unnecessary.
Well. It is quite implied that Tom’s ability to trace the binding is unusual.
Hmm. So the strong demons could pop between the two worlds no prob. That reminds me with the issue of Ramses playing the piano. That scene could actually be in the Abyss. How could the piano work there. Piano lovers would be horrified with the abuse.
My point. There is a lot of trust going on.
Fear is fear. You can’t get an emotion as primitive as that. Whether of death or pain, the dynamic would not change. A city ruled by fear is a short lived one.
Also a town has a very different dynamic compared to a city so your example might not actually apply. Sure such codes will work in a town where almost everyone knows everyone, but not in a city. Such a code is bound to break.
So there is really a lot of trust or things should have flushed down the toilet.
Speaking of toilet. High level demons would need a large one.
[quote]To the Victor Go the Spoils.[/quote]
That is not really the same as stealing.
[quote]Every Disney Fantasy Movie Ever.[/quote]
Huh? Haven’t seen one. Herbie? Narnia? Pirate of the Caribean? John Carter? Enchanted? Oz, the Stupid and Boring?
[quote]History is written by the victors and everybody tries to justify their actions.[/quote]
I thought we are talking about stories. Fiction. I didn’t know history was included.
Sure do. Palladins help the poor and the weak. Well, the ideal one anyway.
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So you have to be once in that form to transform to that form? You mean, the (human) demons could only transform to humans? Rather restrictive. Then how could Bess transform to part cat? I’m sure that it was not Bess’ true form.
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So (demon) dragons can and do cast spells?
I emphasize [b]city[/b]. A [b]city[/b] requires a lot of trust in the population for it to stand. In the absense of trust would cause violent anarchy would issue (like say in the Los Angeles riots). You might as well see the city burning to the ground.
Using fear punishment/death is not a very stable way to manage a city/empire. You can just look at history to see. This is especially more true, if the demons could actually just leave the city as Tizzy says. Leaving the city and live alone, or stay in the city and have your life be under the whim of the authorities… it is just a no brainer. LEAVE!
Especially problematic in this situation if (ultimate) death is used. Demons have very low birthrate so if there is something that killing demons off, soon the number will greatly dwindle. If the number dwindle so much then the necessary manpower to maintain the city would not be achieved. This would cause the city to fail and become unlivable, even to demons.
Another is that, there would always be rebelion if a population is ruled by fear. Sooner or later, someone would become foolish enough to retaliate. It will always not be overtly but covertly like say sabotage. This is a great inefficiency that a city is not likely to handle. Elevators keep breaking, buildings would collapse, the road would be covered in mountains of garbage and debri. And if the authorities are trigger happy to put others to death, demons would be constantly killed left and right. Demons would actually just decimate themselves.
Also add the other sytems that requires or actually based its function in trust. Economy, the heart of every city, based its function on trust. Money, trading, businesses, ownership, capital, etc. required trust to have meaning. In the absense of trust, this systems is just busted. Law enforcement, City maintenance, Taxation, Utilities and others all requires trust to function. Scruffles and violence has come up because of these.
It’s this necissity of trust a [b]city[/b] require, and seeing the the demon city is triving, that makes me conclude that Demons do trust each other a lot. Not as much as humans trust each other, but plenty enough so that a city of that size could actually be standing. Any less, and the dynamics would just be unrealistic. It would seem as if the city is maintaining itself instead of the demons (especially the lower ones) doing the job.
Actually, it already seems unrealistic. The modern conviniences, the skyscrapers, the businesses… when it seems the whole demon population is rather narcissistic and hedonistic. I even wonders where Boggy get his money… or who is making the money in the first place. These things just requires cooperation and trust to create and maintain. Who is maintaning all these things anyway.
Thieving heroes… like Robin Hood?
Also where did you get this hero-stealing-other-people-stuff-and-be-forgiven from. I never encountered such in the books I read.
LOL. Heroes invading monster’s home have often been mocked in many webcomics I read. There monsters see these heroes as theives and allover bad guys and the monsters are just doing their business. Make a lot of sense in a way.
And why would wizards breed more demons. That is just looking for trouble… not that the wizards aren’t in trouble for binding demons in the first place.
@Tizzy:
number 3 sounds very much like a Hentai Tentacle monster. I can’t decide if I’m to be amused or repelled.
@Maou:
I was also mulling at using object links for the same purpose. Object links is also quite much better as you can put the objects in strategic positions and they can have multiple number of them.
@Mauo: I have studied stories/myth from various religion and I can say this:
As for god or evil, many gods, especially the pagan ones aren’t really good or evil. Often time they are just nossy and obnoxious. Though, for most, the gods are often just neutral. In many mythologies these gods are some sort of means of understanding the natural world, like thunder god to explain why the weather just suddenly become god (the god is angry or something), or the sea god sending a storm because it is displeased (very much like the story of Jonah). Basicaly these gods are means to explain natural phenomenons and many gods stay just that and often doesn’t intervene much with humans.
Angels is very rare in mythologies. It is most recognized in Christian and Muslim but many ‘pagan’ religions has no concept of angels. Angels also haven’t been described clearly in any religious literature. The image of the angel we see now (winged humans) could not be found in the Bible.
What you described as demonic culture is also fitingly describes many pagan gods. The Roman gods for example almost matches the descriptions perfectly. With Zues being a central figure and other gods often working independently from each other, and lesser gods often are out of the picture.
Astlanian angels and demons seems to work that way, though I think demons though have a lot of trust with each other. The large city (Court of Chaos) requires a lot of trust for it to be build and maintained (even though many demons are unrully), and a large amount of trust is required for the demons to live that close to earch other. If they don’t, then demons should be living solitarily (like bears or tigers) and would have fight when they come to view with each other.
