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Tizzy is clearly more then he appears.

A number of people have indeed suggested he may be the Concodenax in disguise, it is a fairly popular theory.

I also saw another theory in a different thread that I liked, that Tizzy was in fact the trickster god Loki.

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I just want to say I really liked how the book turned out.

I was here for Beta 1 and really enjoyed most of the changes made since then.

I can’t wait for the next one lol

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[quote=The Author Guy;2379]Of course, it is only dropped in the context of a book that covers 10 days. Councils like the Council of Wizardry are like businesses, or any group of people that have to make difficult decisions on what they feel is too little information. Trust me, I have sat through a LOT of meetings like theirs. People in such positions love to put off such things as long and as much as possible. So, technically it’s very realistic…however why start now with realism?[/quote]

I have experienced a few of these myself and your right of course, but two things.

First the wizards are far more capable of individual action then the people who run these meetings generally are. So if they don’t like what is happening they, especially the archmages, are quite capable of breaking off individually or in small groups to pursue their own plans.

Second I have also noticed when the people who run these things suddenly have their asses on the line things get done, not usually smart things, or the right things, but something gets rammed through in short order so they can point and say they did their part. I would think that “hey Archdemons are coming to kill us and literally drag our screaming souls into hell” would light a large fire under a great many high level asses. That is not even taking into account Oorstemoth & The Rod.

If anything I would expect to see a hundred plans being desperately enacted and clashing and they each tried to get the others to help with each of their own obviously superior plans. I just don’t see them being so passive when their own asses are so obviously on the line. Other peoples yes, their own no.

[quote=The Author Guy;2379]The Djinns are another group that are just now coming into play. Most people know nothing about them. That’s how they keep such a low profile, they watch and observe. They hate Exador, they hate Ramses to a lesser extent. They were big allies of Orcus, they also dislike Lilith and Tiernon and all “false gods”[/quote]

Maybe have some of their motivations more demonstrated, they seem really disconnected and to be acting for little to no reason.

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I’m gonna give a basic thumbs up and thumbs down system based on my personal impression and enjoyment with a brief snippet. (Kinda wish for thumbs up and down smileys lol)

1) Hilda & the Host
This was for me the most interesting part of the book, I like Hilda and the glimpses into the heavens

Thumbs up

2) Gastrope’, Jenn, The Grove, The Nimbus
This dragged and felt like not very much was accomplished, could have been a fraction of the size

Thumbs down

3) Tom, the Abyss, Mount Doom
I liked seeing Tom make progress and grow, though I though the party prep dragged to long

Thumbs up

Secondary Plotlines
1) Nyjyr Ennead (Gods on Uropia)
I all in all liked the glimpse of the gods conflict, but Bess felt a little bit jarring from the first book. Had a bit of a ret-con taste to it, not to severe but still noticeable

Thumbs up

2) Vaselle & Tom
Liked but only mildly, didn’t really do anything with it but get party supplies. Could have explored the affect of the link more.

Thumbs up

3 a) Exador, Bess, Ramses & The Book
I felt this dropped the ball, their reaction to Tom stealing was only mild surprise and for multi millennia old extremely cunning masterminds they were FAR to reactive and not nearly proactive enough. They came off as had no backup plans or contingency plans, you would expect this from Tom as he is only 16 but from them? They kinda came off as incompetent fumbling boobs, more three stooges then horseman of the apocalypse

Thumbs down

3 b) Randolf & Crispin (+Lenamare) vs Exador

I liked Randolf and how he played Lenamare, it felt very in character to me. However I felt they we playing the archdemon to easily (see above)

Thumbs up

4) The Rogues & Captain Asmeth
Seemed extraneous, wasn’t sure what this was about. Maybe the introduction for the Norse pantheon?

Thumbs down

5) “The Adventures of Rupert & Fer Rog”
I liked this but felt like it was a missed opportunity and could have been expanded a bit

Thumbs up

6) Oorstemoth & The Rod->Inferno
Liked the concept but the execution felt bizarrely too long and too short at the same time. I felt that going into the abyss should be kinda suicidal but it feels like a very in character kind of thing fanatics like the Oorstemoth & The Rod would try to do. So good on that.

What worries me is that you gonna send them into the abyss and they will start owning everything they run into when it should be the opposite. Either the demons are a threat or not, if so then going into the abyss should be a very high causality endeavor with very little return, if not 90% of the story makes no sense in my opinion.

Thumbs up with reservations for the future

6.1) Gadius and Gaius ??
Who? as you can see these two didn’t make a lot of impression

Thumbs down

7) Sentir Fallon, Lilith and Aodh
I liked it, the multi plane conspiracy was a definite good touch in my opinion

Thumbs up

8) The Elvish freak out will evolve from the Grove plotline,
I’m gonna have to go back and reread to see what you mean here, I think maybe tighten up the whole grove plotline

Maybe Thumbs down

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I could be wrong, but I believe that is Barbara Eden from I Dream of Jeannie

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Anyone else feel that Tom dismisses the fact he is being played by Tizzy way to easily?

At first it is just some slip-ups like not reacting to the ward ejecting the other demons and other oddities that he could pretty easily dismiss.

But the entire situation with the fortress and Tom’s rise is set about by Tizzy in a fairly visible way yet Tom only gives it a passing thought and shrugs it off.

He basically gets caught in a bunch of lies about never having been in those parts of the mountain and him knowing the inhabitants yet no one calls him on it.

If I was Tom I would be keep a really close and suspicious eye on Tizzy by now.

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I’d go with the top one for the text

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[color=red]I would like to be a beta demon as well please[/color]

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If the book they are fighting over had a distinctive symbol on it like the neverending stories double ouroboros then you could use that.

I don’t recall anything like that being mentioned about the book though.

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Speaking of demon powers.

When Tom was first summoned they commented about how it was confusing as to why he didn’t use any level IV tricks, what kinds of things were they talking about?

Also when Tom confronted the lone soldier on his way back from delivering the message to the other wizard, the soldier attacked him with a whip and it went through him but when he tried with a sword it didn’t – Why?

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I liked them interspersed through the book, it was better way of getting general background then character infodumping. Though I also skipped some of them like the calendar as well

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[quote=Tizzy;807]No, we have to kill inactive sessions to keep them from being hijacked.

However, with the remember me check, and your browser, if you bookmark that page, you just go to it and click the login button because everything is remembered, that then takes you to the main page.

Surprisingly we’ve had a bad time with people trying to break into the site, we’ve had hundreds of fake accounts/profiles created and a ton of bad logins. Fortunately, because they use faked addresses, they can never verify and get access. However, some of the people owning the addresses used have gotten a lot of registration messages from us.

So we had to redo the login process and add other security.[/quote]

Ok I see. I didn’t realize it was such a problem, you keep the forums pretty spam free. Well thanks for the answer

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[quote=Tizzy;805]
PS. You can’t “stay logged in” for security reasons it logs out sessions. But the username/password boxes should work with browser save functionality.
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Ahh ok, I thought the remember me meant it would remember I’d logged in so I didn’t have to re-login everytime I closed my browser

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I kind of thought it was a way to drain demons of their power.

It is alluded to repeatedly that the demon princes would be concerned if they knew about it, and short of either a way to enslave them (My other theory) or drain their power I don’t see a whole lot being able to worry beings of that kind of power

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