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I would like to point out that most people consider the word machinations to have negative connotations its true meaning is plans or possibly complex or secret plans so Beragamos may have been using it one way and everyone took it another (of course he might of planned it that way). Also, none of the 5 siblings intentionally broke their oaths as Sentir’s actions took everyone by surprise. I wonder if Lillith seduced Sentir into becoming a co-conspirator and that was how he got into this mess. I also have another question does the Demiurge have to worry about KoC’s on His Earths since they are already mana poor and his church’s practices suck up any available mana? Wouldn’t that make it almost impossible for a Maelstrom to make it to one of His planes?:-k
There are a couple of things I’ve thought of that might need to be considered in regards to Tiernon’s actions.
1. The constraints of appearances. For everyone outside of the 5 siblings and the 9 wardens of Tartarus, Tiernon and Orcus were/are diametrically opposed forces so that would have limited His response to Orcus’s actions and death. (He basically said this to Beragamos or was it Torean)
2. Beragamos mentions that it might be time for him to reincarnate because his responses to events have been suboptimal. Might it also be time for Tiernon to reincarnate as well? After all the best way to describe his actions for the last few millennia would definitely be suboptimal.
Mhinternational, I think there are some flaws in your logic.
1. The death of Orcus was Sentir’s first real move. Nothing he did before that was very obvious so he was considered by Tiernon to be a trusted associate who did a monumentally stupid act. This means that since Sentir really did a lot of work setting up the battlefield on Etterdam (remember “The Conspiracy” had been working for probably decades if not centuries towards the death of Orcus) and was highly trusted Tiernon had no real reason to question Sentir’s word on what happened. Plus, since the FoG were not cut off from the outer planes and all of the really damning actions happened either far away from the battlefield or after Orcus’ death then it is possible that the other avatars of Tiernon never realized what happened especially if they were told to leave the battlefield immediately after the Death (which since the forces of Tiernon were there to support the Alfar it is possible that could have happened after the main enemy had been killed). In addition, if Sentir, Aodh, and the rest of the Alfar avatars were using there powers to hide the nature of the Unlife on the battlefield (remember the Alfaric Pantheon was fully aware of what was going on) then it is entirely possible that the avatars of Tiernon were completely oblivious to what was truly happening on that battlefield.
In all honesty, nothing that Tiernon and the Five Siblings have done or failed to do is not understandable when you consider the all pervasive flaw found in all aspects of Astlanian cultures. They never question whether their beliefs are correct or not. After all the Rod got involved in book 1, because they believed the paranoid delusions of Verigas. The Oorstemothian’s entire worldview is one big delusion, and do I need to say anything about the wizards.
No, while they’re going to take a hit (especially Tiernon and Torean?), I doubt the Five Siblings are too far gone. Actually I think I maybe Seeing something myself about a possible future where Tiernon puts on his big boy pants and admits his mistakes and asks(or begs in the case of Bastet and her pantheon) for forgiveness and a chance to make amends. Whether this will happen is not clear, but it is one potential future.I could’ve added more to my arguments, but I’m worried that I’m going to run out of space.
They’re Unicorns. It actually talks about how each is the other ones mount and how all unicorns have a same sex mate. When they want to reproduce they mate with someone from a different species. Plus its not that they were shapeshifting they were trying to shift to the ethereal plane something that is natural for unicorns, but it wasn’t working correctly.
Again, I may be repeating myself, but I want in the beta for all three upcoming books. So, please add me to the beta when it goes live.[-o<
Again, I may be repeating myself, but I want in the beta for all three upcoming books. So, please add me to the beta when it goes live.[-o< Yes, I copied this one from CoA forum post.[;-)
Could I get my account verified? I think I got a verification email a long time ago, but the verification would never go through…I kept getting an error and eventually the email got deleted.
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