Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
Are the outer planes encrypted like holy mana streams are, or somehow locked onto their deities? I know the five siblings could tear down their parents afterlife if they wanted, but is that because its connected to theirs, or because the parents are absent and the siblings are strong? If a very strong deity or group of deities invade another deities plane, can they take control or at least fight for control, or is it locked in to its owner until they are defeated or something?
Wow, that is a frustrating answer. I really need to read those new books.
If he isn’t Dis Pater, that brings up so many more questions that I’m just going to pretend you didn’t even say that and just keep waiting for the book.
Why did Rupert’s incarnated body fade away like a demon’s?
Speaking of Talarius. One thing that I find hilarious is his change in attitude towards undead. When he first heard about Tom, he is excited to deal with an enemy that is pure evil, he is tired of dealing with the uncertainties of the undead. Having to kill the infected and the turned, all of whom were once good people was really taking its toll on him. But, when they went to nysegard, he was more than willing to return to the “simplicity” of dealing with undead instead of the demons.
Wow, I am really glad that Tizzy was lying about killing his accursed master on the ship. I do not like the imagery of Tizzy raping someone 69 times.
Do the attributes of the gods influence where they can survive, or is a biological ( or their equivalent) thing. Like could Eres go further into the chaotic areas than Orcus could as a god of order, or would they be limited to pretty much the same regions since they are both Olympians.
I guess an example would be two humans, one who likes hot weather and one who likes cold, they’ll choose to live in a cooler or warmer environment, but both would die in a volcano or the arctic.
Is this accurate, or would Eres actually survive much deeper in chaos than Orcus?cookies!! but seriously, demon weed is valuable and you have the best supply
also I just want to say how much I enjoy this series. Every character is a real person. There’s no “villain” everyone is doing what they think is best. Several times during this read through I’m doing right now ( its at least my fifteenth time through, I really need more) I’ve wanted to stop and post here about how much I love some character, but then stopped myself. I love them all. Pretty much the only character I don’t care about is Alvea, and thats just because her whole character so far is that she’s sad that Rex is dead. Oh, and Trevin D’vils because I’m pretty sure she’s at least part alfar and acts like a diplomat, ruining perfectly good wars with her talking.
This is the only series I can read this many times and still laugh at all the jokes and stupid situations.
So, thank you for writing this T-A-GI’d believe it was a non-wizard summoning you
or a friend
or it was a lie to sneak off somewhere to take care of some Tizzy stuff
or whatever, I was just curiousSo wizardry is basically magic science. In my mind, this means that, like science, they learned through mostly trial and error, especially in the beginning. So here’s my thought:
Animages, shamans, priests, and other mana users were around long before modern wizardry. They all had their own methods for dealing with demons who are also much older than wizardry
Animages would bind demons with their will and overwhelming mana. It is virtually identical to how the demons themselves operate, as we’ve seen with Exador. And because of the difficulty, they use demons much more rarely than wizards, or at least animages that mess with demons are much rarer than wizards
Shamans treat demons with respect like any other spirit that they contact, and again, do it very rarely if at all.
Priests only deal with demons in one capacity, and its not slavery, its battle, which demons can respect.
I’m assuming that there are other types of mana users that haven’t come up yet, and I also assume that they don’t act like wizardsSo for millennia demons are rarely summoned and respected when they are, when all of a sudden, here comes the wizards.
They are thirsty for knowledge, curious about everything, and extremely arrogant. They know about demons, but haven’t yet developed spells to bind them. They probably even know some true names from history or legends. But they haven’t created all of the super fancy bindings with super specific names constantly mentioned in the books. I’m willing to bet that hundreds of wizard researchers died trying to create wizardly demon bindings. Which is why the successful ones are so famous. A wizard like Lenamare might have sacrificed dozens of students testing out prospective summonings. And with every failure, the demons escaped, and enraged at the attempt to bind them, slaughtered the summoner. So now, the wizards have the tales of hundreds of wizards being slaughtered, while the demons are suddenly being summoned left and right with much stronger bindings than they had ever seen before. So now two very prideful and violent groups are being given even more reason to hate each other.
Plus, it has to be much easier for a wizard to pass a binding to a student or a descendant than it is for an animage to do the same.
Oh, and there’s also those rings the wizards are so fond of.So, Tizzy, is this at all accurate, or do demons hate all summoners equally and just refer to wizards the most since they the most common summoners? And do wizards just hate demons like they do because of old legends, and not because of massacres in the early days of wizardy?
There has to be a way to substitute for a true name.
At least in my opinion, a master of runic magic, who can at least think of the name, can create a unique rune, with the meaning of that name. Then, they wouldn’t need to shred their vocal cords, or have an entire choir say the name together to get it right. They could build it into the summons.
I’d also have to imagine that there are other ways to do it. Sure, they might not be as powerful, but there could be ways around it too.
A powerful animage or wizard, could force a binding onto someone, (obviously not as strong as a true name binding, but good enough in the short term) and force them to give up their true name ( like Lenamare did with Tom), then, they could just think the name telepathically to complete the true-name binding. I bet an accomplished mind-reaver could do it easily.That brings up another question. If someone’s mind is erased and they start over with a new life and identity, do they keep the old true name or their new one?
A perfect defense against bindings would be to have a trained dragon name your kids, then call them by a nickname for the rest of their lives.
Wow, that was a long response with a lot of answers in it.
I’m really excited about the undead attacking Freehold. It should be an interesting fight. Lenemare’s super wards can probably be attuned to repel unlife specifically and the city has a lot of fire power. I’m also interested to see if the animage backup that maelen asked his boss to get ready will show up. I hadn’t notice that he called about backup right before he saw Ramses until this read through. It would be awesome to see a bunch of pyromasters just lay waste to a field of zombies, while healers sweep in to save any wounded.I bet an animage healer could figure out a secular cure to ghoulism.
Cool, thanks, most of my post was speculation so I’m glad some was right.
I had just started re-listening to Into the Abyss, and as they were binding Tom, it just struck me that it must have really sucked developing all of those demon bindings. If you mess up a basic wind spell, either the wind doesn’t blow or it blows the wrong way or a bit too hard. If you mess up a basic demon summoning, you get fed your own feet. Its pretty risky, but someone had to do it.you got me, I wasn’t specific enough
Where were you during the battle where Orcus died, before being reborn as Tom? I think you might have had something to do with how he ended up on Earth.
I have a hard time believing that the interdiction stopped you. If there was a way to keep The Tisdale out of a plane, everyone would use it. All of the time.
I can see you saving some fragment of Orcus and taking it to earth to heal for a few millennia.
Or maybe the phoenix cycle is just that unstoppable and any killed deity will return eventually. It would explain why Tartarus is so successful.Also, you singing thunderstruck was one of my favorite moments of the book.
There have been some obvious questions raised in the books about Universal, such as why D’wargs don’t count as translators, and why true names aren’t translated into something that can be said by non-native speakers even though everything else is, and I figure those will either be left as mysteries or explained later, either way they don’t make much of a difference. But what about half-demons?
Does Rupert speak Universal? What about the half-demons on Nysegard? It was never mentioned, but it seems like it would be weird either way. On one hand if Rupert was speaking Universal as a student, he probably would have been found out, and if he wasn’t speaking it later, it seems like it would have come up somehow, especially when he was running around with orcs. The only explanation I can think of is that it’s somehow connected to the Abyss, just like the ability to reform after death. So, once a half-demon travels to the Abyss, he gets all the benefits, but until then, he’s just a strong mortal.Also, do some demons have the ability to stop speaking in Universal? Exador would have a hard time hiding if everyone heard him in their native languages.
