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Yes, will add more people in there. Might make for a bit more tension on Talarius’ part as well. Will they stop me? What is he hiding down here?
The big thing is, I think, after 50K years of doing it, they had it pretty well nailed down, with lots of experienced shamans/warlocks and a ton of mana.
Here, they are short on mana, and are reverse and over engineering it, reconstructing it in its crudest form.
Plus it was a chance to party….
Really wish I could get X-Ray to work properly to let people easily look up who’s who.
Noted all comments, will work on adapting them to some happy medium
Yes, that’s the definition I use.
Plants and animals definitely have animus. Most animals have some sort of sentience or intelligence, so in theory have as much a soul as a human or elf.
Are there animal gods and afterlifes? Perhaps, possibly.
As far as plants, not sure what different shaman groups or druid groups believe, there are some that probably due hold that.
I like the demon plants, I know of one demon plant at the moment. Tizzy has a garden full of them.
There are demon animals, you may remember the Courts had some odd steeds and other things.
There are a huge number of different demons, and even different classification systems. Despite their assertions to the contrary, there are other forces within the Abyss. Actually Sam admits as much in Book III.
I completely agree on Tom. Its part of his growth process to slowly become more proactive/take responsibilities. That’s ultimately a huge part of the long arc of the story.
In my mind, he is still rather shell shocked and coming to terms and things just keep piling on.
By Chapter 140, the end of alpha 0 it is DOA+15, which is 40+15 days so he’s only been a demon for 55 days, not even two months in earth time.
You mean Sam and Lily, I assume?
No one. o:)
Of course the fact that the Garden of Eden looks a lot like hell, does make an interesting philosophical statement. Very Zen!
Ahh…but that’s the trick of the Demi-Urge.
You see in gnostic traditions, the Demi-Urge is the angry god of the old testament. Not the “our father” god of Jesus. That guy is god-the-creator, the grok god, the Zen god, the alpha the omega, the living cosmos itself and all living creatures in creation are his/her children/parts of him/herself.
Shorthanding it a lot, in what we know of their traditions (the Church was very good at eradicating them and their records) they believed that the Demi-Urge was a very powerful being, a “splinter” of the creator, that believed itself to be god-the-creator, yet was not, and was quite imperfect: jealous, vindictive, you know: “eye for an eye” vs “turn the other cheek” and “sacrifice your son to me” sort of guy. And this, clearly is not the god-our-father of which Jesus spoke.
Now then in some traditions, Satan, “The Adversary” is not the adversary of god-the-creator, but rather an agent of god-the-creator sent in opposition to the Demi-Urge. And then we have questions of free will, order vs chaos.
There are many variants of course
They were pretty dejected and crapped out by the time Tom got there. Remember how Tom and crew snuck in?
But…you are right, Tom was trying to return things to full security, so a guard would make sense, however, in the case of Talarius wandering through, they had already secured both sides.
By the point Talarius comes through, they knew the Isle of Doom was “secure” (albeit I wouldn’t completely trust it) and Doom was “secure”
But finally, even if there was a guard there, and I can put one there, and might, Talarius was Tom’s oath sworn hostage, Tom had given Talarius free range of Mount Doom, so why not the Isle of Doom? My bet is that a guard would have just nodded at Talarius and let him through.
All the Doom D’Orcs knew who he was, and everyone from Nysegard (assuming an Nysegard guard) would recognize him as a Knight of Tiernon–and yes they were pissed about Sentir Fallon, but the Nyseguards forces of Tiernon had saved their buts anyway and were considered allies.
I cannot disagree with you.
To find out the answer to that, I may need to refer you to a certain book that “may” have the answers you seek.
Or, I could suggest going and asking the Concordenax.
All of this is quite related.
[quote=kyler;4037]Really a small thing in overall aspect of everything but chapter 124 sentence 3 you said “their shared quarters were a narrow metal walled chamber approximately 8 feet deep, 8 feet deep and at best, 8 feet wide.” i could be wrong but i don’t think that 8 feet deep needs to be in there twice. [/quote]
Can you repost this as its own topic please? I don’t want to miss it in the what to maybe axe section.
Yeah, Jen and Gastrope’ have not had much to do, that will change in book 4. Same with Lenamare, Trisfelt and the Council.
I hope to oomph Freehold some more. Lenamare and Freehold definitely have more stuff going on in the background. Jenn/Gastrope’ etal are sort of stuck on their cloud for the moment. Their stuff is just about to start picking up.
Depending on how much space we have left after the big battle and the earlier “oomphing” we may be able to get them into play now that they are in the same region as Tal Gor again, otherwise that stuff kicks off in Book 4.
A lot of my original ordering/plan kind of went into disarray during the HH’s beta reading. I ended up moving the Storm Lords up much sooner, which in turn delayed some of the Nyjyr Ennead stuff, for which the Nimbus was needed sooner.
That’s one reason I talk about Beta Demons needing to be able to handle alternate realities/timelines. The story has taken a bit of a shift due to input from the last beta. The destination is still the same, it’s just how we get there.
Great points.
I’ve sort of been holding off the mayhem for the last 20% because it’s all mayhem…and that’s what keeping me in “vision mode” and why it’s going so slow.
It’s a huge huge battle with multiple perspectives and lots of stuff going on. It’s much bigger than any of the previous battles, much more complicated and it will go on for a bit…like–with run up–the last 20% of the book…so 30 to 40,000 words maybe?
Unfortunately, I think I am reserving too much pay off for too late. Will definitely be ratcheting smaller events up sooner as I go back.
See Topic: Next Alpha.
I got waylaid by my day job which sucked away a huge chunk of my weekend. That, plus going through the Forum posts eats up time, remember writers will use any excuse to procrastinate–I am back at the writing keyboard in about an hour.
Expect me to go silent on the forums until tomorrow afternoon.
