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  • #4910
    Mikey
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    [quote=Gelcube;3608]all of his minions have free will[/quote]

    D’Hitchens has this to say about Tiernon’s minions’ free will:
    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH2G7fkXAc8[/youtube]

    #4911
    Puck
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    It does sound personal, but it could also just be greed. Like you said, PR is everything, as I’d imagine belief and appearance plays a role in how powerful such entities can get. He may not give a flying fig about Demons, but his platform does.

    #4912
    Mikey
    Member

    [quote=Puck;3610]his platform does.[/quote]

    “Make Mt. Doom great again” vs. “make Tierhallon great again?”

    #4913
    Gelcube
    Member

    Ah, yes! I think you may be right. Just like a human politician, eh?

    #4914
    Mikey
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    [quote=Gelcube;3612]Ah, yes! I think you may be right. Just like a human politician, eh?[/quote]

    Well, humanoid.

    #4915
    Tizzy
    Member

    Please feel free to compare any and all gods to a humanoid politician.

    However, please do not make any search inference about demons. Our feelings would be hurt.

    Of course, if you made the comparison to a D’Orc, any self respecting D’Orc would stand up for his/her race by splattering you to a pulp. Same with Orcs, but they aren’t quite as strong, you’d still be dead, just not quite as big a smear on the ground

    The list of most hated and despised beings for orcs and D’Orcs are

    1) Diplomats
    2) Lawyers (sometimes 1 & 2 are interchangeable, I personally think it’s a function of proximity)
    3) Politicians
    4) Pundits

    They also aren’t that fond of preachers, but as long as they don’t preach in their direction, they can be tolerated. There are no obliterate/eviscerate on sight orders for them.

    #4916
    Gelcube
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    [quote=Tizzy;3614]Please feel free to compare any and all gods to a humanoid politician.

    However, please do not make any search inference about demons. Our feelings would be hurt.

    [/quote]

    Huh? No, I was referring to Puck comment about Tiernon:

    [quote=Puck;3610]It does sound personal, but it could also just be greed. Like you said, PR is everything, as I’d imagine belief and appearance plays a role in how powerful such entities can get. He may not give a flying fig about Demons, but his platform does.[/quote]

    To which I was saying, like a human politician. Puck’s comment just struck me as pretty on-target. That Tiernon’s demon hating may not be as much “personal vendetta”, as “PR spin”.

    #4917
    Gelcube
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    You know, another thing that popped into my cube (other than that barbarian last night). Gods and their avatars seem to get cut off from their god/pantheon pools when entering the Abyss. What if your god pool is IN the Abyss? Does it get cut off when you go to the Outer Planes?

    And how do you make a god pool? Besides a lot of water and concrete, I mean?

    #4918
    LCSpartan051
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    My assumption has always been that a god pool is simply a mana pool where a god dumps all the mana they receive from their mortal worshippers. So it would be something like an oversized crystal gem or something like that.

    #4920
    LCSpartan051
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    Refleca items do what their creators want them to do/believe they do. So a refleca crystal might be able to hold a god pool/pantheon pool if it was created for that purpose. On a related note, are priests just godly warlocks?

    #4921
    Puck
    Member

    Hmm, god pools collect and store mana, from believers? Is that some sort of link system? One wonders if Mount Doom could become a god pool..

    #4922
    Winter
    Member

    i always figured it was planned as an upgrade for Mt. Doom

    Tom Could use more Mana Supply and now with his connections to the D’Orcs and Orcs it should be possible somehow

    #4923
    Gelcube
    Member

    [quote=LCSpartan051;3619]On a related note, are priests just godly warlocks?[/quote]

    Ooooh, that’d be rich! Just walk up to a priest and say, “Hi, godly warlock!”

    Hmm, Mount Doom 2.3…the god pool update for 54,268.

    #4924
    Tizzy
    Member

    [quote=LCSpartan051;3619]Reflect items do what their creators want them to do/believe they do. So a reflect crystal might be able to hold a god pool/pantheon pool if it was created for that purpose. On a related note, are priests just godly warlocks?[/quote]

    That’s the sort of question that gets one either burnt at the stake as a heretic.

    Much more of the original plans for Doom are revealed in book 3 and later.

    Warlocks have long known to be puppets for demons and they typically do not collect mana for their masters. In fact, warlocks being wizards or aniwizards etc generally don’t have any mechanism for collecting mana from worshipers. Could they? One supposes with a lot of time and practice, but as a rule that has not been what they do. The only way wizards have of exchanging mana is via Wizard Links used in joint spell casting etc. Like the wards or a summoning.

    Shamans on the other hand, some of them do have rituals for harnessing group mana–see book 3 for a big example of this.

    #4926
    Tizzy
    Member

    Uhm…yeah what you said…I think the second.

    Not sure I can wrap my head around that as I have lot of smoke wrapped around my head at the moment.

    The outer planes are not physical planes, but they are not as immaterial as the astral and aetherial planes. Just very different.

    The aetherial planes are like shadows of the material worlds, and are directly connected to a physical/material universe.

    The astral plane is one of pure spirit, about the safest place for someone with only an animabody to live, short of the outer planes.

    If the aetherial planes are shadows, then the outer planes are reflections of the material planes, and like most reflection what is there depends upon the direction/angle/position you are looking and who is looking. However, it’s not quite that simple, because the splintering of the multiverse creates multiple-facets each one of which may have a corresponding reflection in the outer planes, or perhaps some overlap. The gods understand this far better than I.

    I’m just stuck in the Abyss. I would thus add to the argument in this thread, that part of what makes a god a god is an understanding of the outer planes and how to manipulate them.

    Maybe a simple analogy would be that the outer planes are somewhat similar to your cyberspace and virtual environments. As reflections of the material world controlled and manipulated, they are to all intents and purposes “virtual worlds” and the gods are the programmers. The souls are the players, the avatars the game masters?

    But that’s a loose analogy; technically completely inaccurate, but….functionally not an incorrect way of thinking about it.

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