Discrepancies from book 2

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  • #7515

    [quote=EyeDeKay;5937]When Hilda and Co steel war arrow did she pick up all of Talarius’ stuff? There was that whole first ruiden scene where he destroys the tent, but Talarius still had lots of other magic stuff in there.

    Meaning did he also get the mirror?[/quote]

    They did, a lot of it had been in his Bags of Safekeeping.

    The mirror, however, was turned over to Sir Sorel to continuing scanning, he is still at Freehold

    FYI: The Knights Rampant that we have heard of are:

    Baxtion (Deceased somehow tied to Talarius)
    Etrian (went Vampire, staked by Talarius)
    Etrias (Brother of Etrian was not at Freehold)
    Gadius (on Inferno)
    Gaius (on Inferno)
    Kiernon (Deceased somehow tied to Talarius)
    Serah (on Inferno)
    Sorel (At Freehold with mirror)
    Talarius (Apostle of Doom)
    Trian (Deceased, father of Etrian and Etrias, somehow tied to Talarius)

    The deceased knights, tied to Talarius are casualties of Talarius leading people into battle and being the only one to return, with the exception of Etrian who he staked shortly before Book 1.

    #7516
    Korwin
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    [quote=EyeDeKay;5937]We know what color Rupert was, he showed up when Talarius looked at him in his tent. [/quote]Yeah, this is an point in favor that Dispater is in deep cover and fooling the mirror.
    Or is an newborn phoenix recyled god only at the power level of an greater demon?

    #7517
    Iume
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    Eh, but we have scenes where Rupert thought to himself. He truly considers himself a half-demon unless he somehow removed his memories for whatever reason.

    #7518

    He is a “half demon” or so he believes.

    If he is Dis Pater, he’s also phoenixed.

    What Phaestus does not say in this book is that Orcus’ son “just appeared” after Orcus Phoenix Cycled a previous time (probably the last time)

    I could make that clearer by saying at that if it makes things more intriguing.

    They actually are related, but it’s not as simple as Rupert believes. As we know from Reggie, the demon that fathered Rupert does not have to be the actual father. Not saying that the demon was an incubus, but it could have been.

    #7519
    Mikey
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    [quote=The Author Guy;6012]They actually are related, but it’s not as simple as Rupert believes. As we know from Reggie, the demon that fathered Rupert does not have to be the actual father. Not saying that the demon was an incubus, but it could have been. [/quote]
    If Rupert has a built-in directive for becoming a wizard and summoning Orcus, it does change my view of the Orcus character.

    #7520
    LCSpartan051
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    What if Orcus accidentally messed up once during a Pheonix Cycle and split into 2 beings, Orcus and Dis Pater. That would explain why they look identical their demon forms.

    #7521

    [quote=Mikey;6015]If Rupert has a built-in directive for becoming a wizard and summoning Orcus, it does change my view of the Orcus character.[/quote]

    For better or worse?

    #7522

    [quote=LCSpartan051;6016]What if Orcus accidentally messed up once during a Pheonix Cycle and split into 2 beings, Orcus and Dis Pater. That would explain why they look identical their demon forms.[/quote]

    [-( Not gonna say….

    :-“

    #7523
    Mikey
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    Maybe it’s a hedge against people trying to permanently kill him; every time someone seriously tries, there’s one more copy of him running around making life difficult for the kind of beings who’d try to permanently kill him in the first place?

    #7525
    Mikey
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    [quote=The Author Guy;6018][quote=Mikey;6015]If Rupert has a built-in directive for becoming a wizard and summoning Orcus, it does change my view of the Orcus character.[/quote]
    For better or worse?
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    It depends. The Smiths and his half-siblings believed him to be sufficiently paranoid and crafty.

    If he was controlling Dis: worse, if it was a mutually beneficial deal: better. Let’s say Orcus had a reason to believe that he’d be rezzed on a low-mana plane, and would need someone to summon him to Astlan…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVxV13–DI

    #7526

    In which case dragging Dis with him to Etterdam (assuming he did) would be an extremely stupid thing to do if he’s your Disaster Recovery Demon (DRD)

    #7527
    Mikey
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    [quote=The Author Guy;6033]In which case dragging Dis with him to Etterdam (assuming he did) would be an extremely stupid thing to do if he’s your Disaster Recovery Demon (DRD)
    [/quote][img]https://giant.gfycat.com/InsecureBouncyAztecant.gif[/img]

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