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The Author Guy
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Great discussion…restating this, this way, reminded me of info that I need to give out in the section I am literally in the middle of writing.
There are so many pieces moving around that it is often very difficult to remember when to reveal certain pieces of information.
[SPOILER]Doing a scene with Ne’t and Aodh (for insertion earlier). Ne’t knows all about this question–or rather he knows/suspects what the Doomalogues could be used for. And that’s a major part of why he is so “hell bent” on eliminating Orcus and Doom forever.[/SPOILER]
The Author Guy
MemberThat is probably at least half of it.
Their presence in the Abyss certainly violates the accord. The Outpost is very much “illegal” by the accord. If anyone asks Phaestus, that would be the answer.
Hephaestus working for Orcus or Tommus is technically legal because he was “invited” in by Orcus (and presumably Tommus/habit/just assumed the invitation was there).
[SPOILER]There is, however, another reason. The Accord also keeps demons (Demon Princes) from going to the outer plane. Much of the Accord is backed by the idea that you can’t do a relay, that such technology/magic does not exist. So Gods are at a disadvantage in the Abyss and Demon Princes in the Outer Planes (assuming they had a big manapool in the Abyss). Of course, the gods also believe (rightly) that demons don’t have anything called Demon Pools (except that Orcus does)
[SPOILER]Net has pretty much figured out that the Doomalogues can be used as relays, that that is what they are. Realize that it took the Courts of Chaos a very long time to realize that Orcus was creating mana in the Abyss with Mount Doom. Very few people outside the Courts would know this, certainly no gods would have known this. Therefore, they would not suspect that the Doomalogues are also making mana and are super linked to Mount Doom. They assume they are just normal temples. [SPOILER]They do not see them as logistical support for an invasion of the Outer Planes.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER][SPOILER][SPOILER][SPOILER]As you will see, he also believes that the Tartarvardenennead are committed atheists who want to overthrow the Godhead and imprison all the gods in Tartarus.[/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER]
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[/SPOILER]The Author Guy
MemberAnd by the by or however that is spelled.
This link connection business is very critical to the whole Dark Apostle thing. I don’t really bring hir up until later in the alpha-0, but in alpha-1 I am bringing up the Dark Apostle sooner to answer some questions in advance of what happened on Etterdam and what is going to happen at the end of AoD.
This is where Exador comes in, trying to recreate the work of the Dark Apostle for the Storm Lords.
PS I (and the characters) tend to refer to the Dark Apostle as an ‘it’ or ‘hir’ by and large most liches are sexless (they are literally frigid) but many stick to their old mortal gender. No one (that is talking about the DA) knows what the original gender of the DA was. Presumably some of the Storm Lords do, but they haven’t been talking about the DA in the book.
The Author Guy
MemberInteresting question, some answers to this may be forthcoming at the end…of volume iii
One key point to keep in mind is that Talarius is not a priest so he doesn’t really have the same link. They (KR) are consecrated to Tiernon, so he does have some mana channeling capabilities, just not full priestly links. They are mainly spells related to physical combat/undead protection. Think “paladin” even though he is “not a paladin damn it”
It is not clear what would happen if he went back to Mount Doom, but presumably, yes the link would still be viable, unless Volund and Phaestus were doing something to block non-Tom/Orcus links.
To be honest, at this point, I do not know if they are. Actually, strike that, I can say I do know now that I think about it. 🙂
Given that they had these Doomalogues for thousands of years, this question was presumably resolved at some point because, it could be a weak point. But maybe not…..
You can certainly bet that the regular defenses of Doom, now that they are back, are going to be blocking links to other places in the Abyss. They would absolutely have taken precautions to keep Lilith etal from planting spies with links.
However, Lilith somehow got into Doom anyway despite this. My guess is that she did this through Etterdam (most likely) or a Doomalogue, because they did not shield for this properly on the Doomalogue links. So that’s why I “probably” do know the answer to this. She sent someone in through a Doomalogue and followed the link.—I think Talarius will need to reveal this information accidentally to the folks of Doom.
What I know, but is not in the book yet is that the Etterdam Doomalogue (where Ragala-nargoloth is) was severely damaged when Orcus died. That was where the big gum-up was. This plays directly to the Dark Apostle and how they managed to kill Orcus. I am working right now to bring this stuff forward more obvious, in large part because you guys are helping me focus on the logic of all of this.
Anyway the Etterdamn Doomalogue is why I am including Ragala-nargoloth stuff (booty call etc) because that Doomalogue is definitely compromised to this day. Ragala-nargoloth is going to have to do some house cleaning.
The Author Guy
MemberTom really is procrastinating on Lenamare.
Remember he is still in sort of passive mode getting his bearings and he’s got plenty of craziness and problems piling up and he is sort of shoving things to the back burners as teens really like to do (and even much older people like myself like to do “I can’t deal with this now–I’ll wait until it bites me in the ass!”)
But he should do something about it, but he won’t and he will regret it because at some point, someone in Freehold may need to bring out the big guns–meaning Tom.
You may recall that Elrose and Maelen both saw a war between the gods and demons with Freehold sort of at the center?
The Author Guy
MemberHmm, that might work.
I was basing time off of travel time, but I suppose they could have spent an extra day or two at Mount Orc.
Thinkalating on it….
The Author Guy
MemberSuper!
Thanks!
Will do an update with some shadow text in the next day or so…
The Author Guy
MemberHere is a new front and back with both lettering changes (black border) and suggested corrections.
The red lines are only there to delineate front and back cover regions and will not be in the final image.
Click to expand and read better
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The Author Guy
MemberHmm, I think the letters got darker, or they did when I shrunk the image.
Blown up the letters have a better gold to black border ratio. Hmm…maybe lighting effects…
The Author Guy
MemberHere is just the back cover at about the book size.
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I uppped the lighting on the first paragraph, but not sure it’s enough.
The Author Guy
MemberUpped the lighting.
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The Author Guy
MemberWell the demons can trace the bindings back to where their master is, they have to be able to in order to show up where they are called.
It’s just what they can do in terms of sending “through” the binding. For example, wizards can send pain spells down the binding, demons cannot send fireballs back up the binding, that’s what I mean by one way. It’s mainly locational from the demon’s end. And obviously if the wizard croaks they’ll know it.
A lot of it depends on what binding the caster users; there are a lot of different ones, some allow some things, others do not. For example that one that “Gastrope’ used to bind his demon Tizzy”
is a very old, very ornate, it probably has different properties than more modern bindings. We really don’t know what would happen going the other way. Clearly, with the power of Doom, the game has changed.
I think the big thing to keep in mind is that Lenamare is not yet aware that Tom is running Mount Doom. He just knows that he may have a very greater demon on his hands, possibly an archdemon. What he does know is that it appears that his wards were able to expel Tom, and probably Exador.
Right now, at this moment, though, he is much more scared of Exador than Tom. Exador has basically threatened to flatten Freehold and take the book. Tom is off missing somewhere; if he finds out much more, i.e. what Damien and Randolf now know? He’ll probably break the link.
I definitely need to get back into Freehold. People aren’t feeling a lot of tension in this book. Trust me when I say Freehold is VERY tense at the moment. I need to show that much more.
The Author Guy
Member[quote=Malacai;4185]In that case, wouldn’t Lenamore, once he believes that the demon tricked him into binding him, want to spite the demon/Tom by breaking the binding? I mean, the binding is only useful if it could be used to actually control the demon, which he doesn’t believe so anymore. Thus, the binding has no use, and in fact could be a liability, since Lenamore doesn’t know that Tom doesn’t want anything to do with him.[/quote]
Exactly,quite true. Why it’s interesting would be his reaction/rage at people thinking he was but the puppet of a demon, that any demon could trick him or use him.
If I were willing to get in his head more, it could potentially raise qualms of self-doubt.
The Author Guy
Member[quote=Iume;4192][quote=The Author Guy;4188]Well the demons can trace the bindings back to where their master is, they have to be able to in order to show up where they are called.
[/quote]This reminds me, Reggie was able to return to Astlan w/o being summoned because he followed the binding. This seems to imply that ANY demon could follow its binding back to its master and attack if it wanted. And yet there is nothing that seems to indicate this is so or has happened.
Is this consistent w/ books 1 and 2?
[/quote]When/where was this? I don’t think that would be consistent. I don’t remember him returning to Astlan except with his mistress, and then the dream walking which he was in Astlan for….
So I need to investigate this.
The Author Guy
Member[quote=EyeDeKay;4191]Yeah maybe some lenamare planning his grand escape or just various lower non mages who don’t know what’s happening questioning the council. [/quote]
I am seeing a lot of interesting Council sessions. Questions about evacuating women and children…but to where? If Exador got wind that they had evacuated people to nearby Council State towns he might use that has leverage against the Council. He might do that anyway.
All sorts of things along that line.
Of course, in reality, yes Exador is royally embarrassed pissed, but he 1) really wants that book and 2) his vengeance would be personal against the other Council members; all that being said if he could threaten other cities to get the Council to force Lenamare to give up the book….
???
Of course, what the Council does not know is that Exador’s threats are mostly hollow until the Storm Lords provide him resources. Sure he’s got a ton of demons and could wreak havoc on nearby towns, but with Lenamare and the wards, the demons can’t do much about Freehold itself…he needs the Storm Lords for that, so it pays to be patient until he can muster all his forces and maximally apply them.
Yeah, this story line really sort of got sat out. This needs to get in pretty badly. Both on the Council side, Lenamare/Jehenna side and more on the Exador side.
Also, Randolf etal (now Lenamare) is still working on his archdemon trap, and trying to fortify Turelane.
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