Rupert as a demigod
2014-12-30 at 18:00 #5053
Tizzy, you don’t have a good name to slander.
Unless your True Name is good? Why don’t you tell us so we can judge?
That being said, I don’t remember T-A-G mentioning that Rupert’s origins don’t involve time travel. Was that on the Amazon boards? i don’t go there, so I don’t know what’s on them.2015-08-31 at 14:08 #5058
You know, Mikey, I was re-reading ITA, and even though anecdotal evidence suggests Rupert and Tom are related, there’s nothing that directly CONTRADICTS your theory, either.
When Rupert is talking to Tom about his childhood, he talks about how he had always been told he’s a demon-child, so the thought was in his head. Then he started changing at puberty, but he never let himself completely change. He didn’t know exactly how he looked as a demon. His mother gave a description of his father, but on her [b]deathbed[/b], well after he’d started changing, but [b]before[/b] he’d completely changed. So yes, according to your theory, he could have influenced his own demon form! Nothing so far (that I know of) directly opposes this. That would be interesting. Rupert not actually being related to Tom at all.2016-10-02 at 17:10 #5068
Well that would be hard to do as their bodies disappear from the Planes of Orc (or Man) upon death. Thus they would be empty calories at best.
I could see lawyers causing digestion. As you know, my D’Orc friends do not like lawyers (or diplomats). While I have never met one myself, I’ve heard that they can be hard to take…2020-06-02 at 15:18 #13112020-06-02 at 15:22 #5050
Given the recent dearth of good new sci-fi/fantasy after Amazon told me not to scrape their new book list for filtering, I’ve been re-reading Astlan books one and two.
I very much enjoy reading multiple unreliable narrator accounts instead those of an omniscient third party. It greatly adds to the texture of the world.
What if all those unreliable assumptions about Rupert’s origins in book 1 are wrong, even his own?
He wasn’t present at his conception. His mother didn’t really understand who his father was. One of their neighbours might have seen a dark-skinned man visit, a black cat in the alley the next day, and the rumours would have taken care of the rest.
The rumours would have shaped Rupert’s self-image, which is why he started sprouting horns in the early teens. In a different environment, with different neighbours, he could just as well have started manifesting a halo and chicken wings.
The rules about demonic children so many of the players are so certain of, would not apply to demigods, who would have gotten a strong injection of the animus and mana their parent farmed/leeched off their gullible populace.2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5051
The problem with that is that Rupert said his mother gave him a description of his father, which closely resembles Tom’s demon form. Jenn also noted in ITA that there was a family resemblance between Rupert and Tom when Tom first introduced himself as Edwyrd. Tom was concentrating very hard on his previous form, and didn’t have the control yet to alter it to more closely resemble Rupert. So they are most likely related in some way. That’s not to say they actually ARE father/son, but at least related.
I see where you’re going with that, and it’s a very interesting concept, I just don’t think it’s likely in this situation. Not to say it’s NOT true. Like you said, we really don’t have completely reliable eyewitness accounts of Rupert’s conception/birth, so this is all complete speculation at the moment. Just that the anecdotal evidence points to them actually being related.2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5052
Someone else brought this up recently.
Not sure if it was here, or on Amazon. But I think here.
I think my suggestions was that Tom and Rupert are the same person.
Or maybe, at some point in time, Rupert will use the world gate to go back in time and travel to Earth, marry Tom’s mother and she gives birth to Tom.
Sure, T-A-G says that Rupert’s origin does not depend on time travel; but as you’ve noted, there are unreliable narrators. And if you ask me, based on my personal experience and what has really been happening and what T-A-G actually reports…I KNOW T-A-G is an unreliable narrator!
I mean, what possess him to spread rumors about me being a drug dealer? That is flat out libel! If I could find a court with jurisdiction in both your world and the Abyss, I would sue him.
Wish he lived in the UK; you can sue just about anyone there for libel…hey wait…these books are sold in the UK via amazon.uk!
I bet that counts as being published here. I can sue him there for slanderous libel that has compromised my good name!2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5054
[quote=Gelcube;3076]That being said, I don’t remember T-A-G mentioning that Rupert’s origins don’t involve time travel. Was that on the Amazon boards? i don’t go there, so I don’t know what’s on them.[/quote]
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See, now I got to make sure the Brits can see you slandering my name on this board so I can sue you!
I have a very good name! I’m very well known and well liked! I am so well liked in fact that people in bars shout my name when I come in to bars! (although I use a different name at my favorite Boston watering hole).
Making my way in the multiverse today, takes everything I’ve got; taking a break from all my worries, sure does help a lot.
I just want to get away. Sometimes I just want to go where everybody knows my name, and they’re always glad I came.
I want to be where I can see that my troubles are all the same, where everybody knows my name!2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5056
[quote=Tizzy;3079]… where everybody knows my name![/quote]
In the Navy, yes, you can put your mind at ease!2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5057
And while I could sail the seven seas…I’d prefer to stay at the YMCA!
:d/2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5060
So what happens when someone inevitably tries to bind Rupert? Surely he’s been bright enough to give the school an alias?
Let’s say he’s a demigod, will a binding automatically be the other way, letting Rupert channel mana from the binder?
One of the few non-credible plot points of book 2 is that Tom doesn’t spend that much time worrying about Lenamare appropriating his new demon army through their link, which he had already seen and affected once, unlike other demons around him, he clearly believed. Even after he himself worked quite a bit through links.
Sure, if “someone” is mentally controlling him, then it’s credible. Otherwise, not so much.
Then again, Lenamare stated that he did have some unnamed first, second and third reich demons. Perhaps one of them might be “named” Tisdale, and that link might not be quite as one-directional as Lenamare believes it to be?2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5067
I’ve never ate anything myself, but I heard from a distant cousin that it ate the corpse of a lawyer, and it got food poison and couldn’t move for a week. Other than that, I’ve personally digested liche corpses (after they’ve been “deactivated”), flesh golems, humans, dwarves, elves, basilisks, griffins, and things I couldn’t identify, but were still tasty. I’ve never digested a demon or avatar, though.2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5066
I am thinking he would cause a lot of heart burn. And a lot of gas! Considering how full of hot air he is.
Do you gelatinous cubes ever get indigestion? Given that you guys sort of act like the cleaning crew of the dungeon, sucking up the organic byproducts of various battles (corpses) you probably have a pretty high tolerance, but maybe somethings upset your digestion?2020-06-02 at 15:22 #5065
I still say Tom should just yank on that link, jerk Lenamare to the Abyss, and swallow his soul.
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